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NoteBoat wrote:If "3" tells you that C is the 3rd note of Phrygian, how is that any different from C being the 3rd note of Aeolian, or the 3rd note of Dorian?
3rd of Aeolian would be 3+5
It adds up to 1 (there is no 8) aka Ionian
C D E F G A B
So the note C is
3rd of A Aeolian
3rd note of Dorian would be 3+1
It adds up to 4 aka Lydian
Apply Lydian to C D E F G A B
C D E F# G A B
and you get the key of G
G A B C D E F#
So the note C is
3rd of A Dorian
It adds up to 5... why is 5 known as mixolydian? Sure, C is the 5th of the key of F major - but it's also the 5th of F Dorian, F Phrygian, F Lydian, F Mixolydian, and F Aeolian. I can't tie "5" into anything concrete. I can see by your diagram that I only get a total of 5 in one segment... but I still don't see how it's useful. If "5" refers to Mixolydian being the fifth mode of the major scale, you'd still have to memorize the same pattern for each starting note - learning it from C does nothing to help you if you're starting in G.
kingpatzer wrote:The first point is about theory in general. A good theory site will take music and relate it in a general way to explainatory material. "Why does this sound good?" a student will ask. "Because, it does the following things" the theory will answer! Your method provides no explainatory power -- to that end, I dismiss it as "theory" and place it squarely in the realm of "memorization tricks."
Now, there's nothing wrong with a few good tricks for memorizing things. But they should never be confused with, nor presented as, theory. I wouldn't dismiss a site merely because it's only about ways of remembering things. Or because it makes the mistake of presenting a mnemonic as theory. Those tricks have their place and I can compensate for less than nuanced presentation with my students. But it is a strike against any site.
it has no explanatory power for dealing with diminished scales, augmented scales, pentatonic scales, whole tone scales, or even the melodic and harmonic minor scales. When you stop and thnk about it, a theory system that can't deal with the majority of the most important scales in music
So to sum up: your site provides an interest gemoetrical picture of scales, but it is guitar centric, more about math than music, and doesn't provide any inspiring ways of applying your memorization trick to music. It has some utility, and for some people will perhaps really help them look at diatonic scales, and their relationship to the fretboard, in a new and interesting way. But it isn't something I'd use or recommend for the reasons I mentioned above.
NEZTOK wrote:It can do those things. I have the harmonic scale on there.
kingpatzer wrote:and they were actually incorrect.
NoteBoat wrote:I didn't write you off - and in fact, I looked at every page. I just don't find it a useful way of looking at things, but others may feel differently.
kingpatzer wrote: and they were actually incorrect.
NEZTOK wrote:kingpatzer wrote: and they were actually incorrect.
Where is it wrong? The fretboard patterns are right. I can't fix what I can't find.
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