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Postby almann1979 » September 21st, 2008, 5:58 am

i recently saw on a licklibrary dvd the instructor using a hairband over the strings to mute when using high distortion. i was just wondering is this normal practice, or if i pulled a hairband over the strings at a gig would any guitarist watching think it was poor practice?
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Postby gnease » September 21st, 2008, 6:41 am

It's not really about distortion so much as high gain (which is one way to get distortion!). Using a rubber band or elastic pony-tail holder lightly over the strings near the nut does do a great job of muting open strings whose slightest ringing or noise a high gain set-up can turn into a monster nastiness. Is it a cop out? Some will see it that way; but even experienced players have been known to use the technique for that occasional tune for which there seems be no other way to quiet open string demons by the usual palm and finger muting. So if it makes a particular tune work for you, then why not? But don't turn it into a crutch that will keep you from learn to mute specific strings with your hands and fingers -- this is a very important playing skill.
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Postby kent_eh » September 21st, 2008, 9:26 am

Victor Wooten does it.
He uses it right at the nut as a light mute, but he also plays around with it, sometimes sliding it to a harmonic for an interesting effect
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Postby XylemBassGuitar » September 21st, 2008, 9:36 am

gnease wrote:if it makes a particular tune work for you, then why not? But don't turn it into a crutch that will keep you from learn to mute specific strings with your hands and fingers -- this is a very important playing skill.


Absolutely.

I'd probably only use the hairband as a last resort, if you really can't keep the strings muted for a certain effect or difficult song. Any time you can learn to play something difficult without a gimmick you'll be glad you did in the end.

Then again, one of the beautiful things about music is that it doesn't have any rules, and you can really do anything you want, regardless of what others think or say.
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Postby gnease » September 21st, 2008, 12:24 pm

kent_eh wrote:Victor Wooten does it.
He uses it right at the nut as a light mute, but he also plays around with it, sometimes sliding it to a harmonic for an interesting effect


In terms of special effects, it's probably got more potential for use on a bass than "normal or Spanish" guitar, as it tends to affect low mass (treble) strings far more than high mass (bass) strings. Using it to affect string modes (nodes/hamonics) def seems like an interesting possibility.
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Postby TRGuitar » September 21st, 2008, 9:36 pm

I thought this was about 80's metal A.K.A. Hair Bands :lol: It does however make me think of seeing Ted Nugent this summer playing Strangle Hold. No hair band on the guitar, but totally mastering distortion and feedback on that song. No hairband for Uncle Ted, no hairband for TR. 8) Non guitarist get off on that song, but as a guitarist watching the mastery, well, it makes you appreciate the talent.
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Postby UrbanCowgirl » September 23rd, 2008, 7:11 am

TRGuitar wrote:I thought this was about 80's metal A.K.A. Hair Bands :lol:

Haha, me too!
I've never seen anyone use a hairband or rubber band for distortion. Interesting idea.
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Postby gnease » September 23rd, 2008, 9:02 am

UrbanCowgirl wrote:
TRGuitar wrote:I thought this was about 80's metal A.K.A. Hair Bands :lol:

Haha, me too!
I've never seen anyone use a hairband or rubber band for distortion. Interesting idea.


looks as if your new avatar might be sporting a hairband -- can't see with that Tele in the way :wink:
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Postby UrbanCowgirl » September 23rd, 2008, 12:00 pm

gnease wrote:
UrbanCowgirl wrote:
TRGuitar wrote:I thought this was about 80's metal A.K.A. Hair Bands :lol:

Haha, me too!
I've never seen anyone use a hairband or rubber band for distortion. Interesting idea.


looks as if your new avatar might be sporting a hairband -- can't see with that Tele in the way :wink:

Actually the Tele strap is the hairband. It's the latest rage in hair accessories. Kinda heavy though so you have to hold on to it with both hands. :mrgreen:
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Postby gnease » September 23rd, 2008, 1:13 pm

UrbanCowgirl wrote:
gnease wrote:
looks as if your new avatar might be sporting a hairband -- can't see with that Tele in the way :wink:

Actually the Tele strap is the hairband. It's the latest rage in hair accessories. Kinda heavy though so you have to hold on to it with both hands. :mrgreen:


very cooool!
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Postby katmetal » September 23rd, 2008, 2:52 pm

Jennifer Batten uses a string damper unit. I have seen other pros using them as standard practice as well. If I thought it would benefit my playing, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

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Postby gnease » September 23rd, 2008, 3:58 pm

Does Jennifer Batten use it only for high gain guitar or synth (midi) guitar or both? I can see a real advantage using it for a synth system, as even the tiniest erroneous string noise -- scrape, slight tone, sympathetic vibration -- can trigger an avalanche of patch tones. Some of them can be painfully high in frequency as well as volume.
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Postby katmetal » September 23rd, 2008, 5:26 pm

Does Jennifer Batten use it only for high gain guitar or synth (midi) guitar or both? I can see a real advantage using it for a synth system, as even the tiniest erroneous string noise -- scrape, slight tone, sympathetic vibration -- can trigger an avalanche of patch tones. Some of them can be painfully high in frequency as well as volume.
I can't say for certain, but I am under the impression that she uses it for the majority of her playing. She didn't have one on the neck in some of the Michael Jackson vids I watched, but I have read on her website & in interviews that she makes use of it much of the time.
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Postby ksac32 » September 24th, 2008, 5:26 am

:lol: :lol: I thought this post was about these guys-lol hairband--ha--get it
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Postby Rahul » September 28th, 2008, 12:24 pm

Very nice looking 'girls'.
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