Legit or not???

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Legit or not???

Post by Nexion » September 7th, 2006, 4:27 pm

I recieved this email:

SEE MESSAGE IN BOX!!
FROM: THE DESK OF THE PROMOTIONAL LOTTERY
COORDINATOR,
INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS/ PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT.

KROPAAR
STRAAT 34, 1032LA,
AMSTERDAM, THE NETHERLANDS

Ref. Number:
*#*/###/###/####
Batch Number: ###/###-**##

Dear winner,

We are pleased to inform you of the result of the Lottery Winners
International programs held on the 6th September 2006,Your e-mail
address attached to ticket number: 1042896-9061 with drew lucky
numbers 12-0-17-31-60- 75-6 which which consequently won in the 1st
category,Therefore been approved for a lump sum pay out of 1,500,000.00
Euros (One Million Five Hundred Thousand Euros)

This is from a total cash prize of 3 Million Euros,shared amongst the First Three lucky winners in this category.All participants were selected randomly from World Wide Web site through computer draw system and extracted from over 25,000 companies email addresses and 30,000,000 Individual email addresses from Australia, New Zealand, America, Europe, North America and Asia as part of International Promotions Program. Europe Klassenlotterie wish to be grateful to sponsors who made this year's
program a reality (Sponsors//www.25peaces.at) Revenue for this
programme is derived from the financing from major multinational firms
cut across the European community. Please note that your lucky winning
number falls within our Netherlands booklet representative office in
Europe as indicated in your play coupon. In view of this,your One
Million Five Hundred Thousand Euros)would be released to you by our
payment office in Europe.
Our Netherlands agent will immediately commence the process to facilitate the release of your funds as soon as you contact him. For security reasons, you are advised to keep your winning information confidential till your claims is processed and your money remitted to you in whatever manner you deem fit to claim your prize. This is part of our precautionary measure to avoid double claiming and unwarranted abuse of this program by some unscrupulous elements. Please be warned To file
for your claim, please contact our fiduciary agent:

000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

DR, Zeger HUB-Jacco.
Claims processing manager
EUROPW LOTTO PLUS

europwlotterij@netscape.net
Tel: + 31 644 857 956
Fax:+31 847 197 528

000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Immediately to process your winning which will not take more
than 10 working days from today.Congratulations once more.
NB:Kindly
indicate your Ticket No in your
reply.

Sincerely yours,
Mrs, Cor-
Jan Olfien Delaine.
Lottery Coordinator
EuroPW Lottery Program.

Know, I'm not that guilible and I read this email just out of curiosity. But after I read it I noticed that it seemed somewhat legit: it gave a street address, a site including sponspors, the name email telephone and fax number of my "fiduciary agent", and the name and position of the person writing the email. I also noticed that there were some aspects that seemed un-business-like: a few grammar and capitalization errors. But all this can be fake and fail to prove anything.

I went to the sponsor website:
http://www.25peaces.at
This is also hard to tell the authenticity of, because I can't read most of it. But it looks like a legit website and Red Bull is a sponsor as well as Porche.

And it isn't like they asked for anything that they could exploit and get money from, they just wanted me to reply back with the reference number given above (which I concealed with #'s just incase this is real :lol:)

I already replied to the person that sent me the email notification with a response of, "How do I know this is legit?". But the email looks like it isn't actually used, it is:
see.message13@virgilio.it

I also sent an email to my "fiduciary agent" with a more elaborate question also asking for prove of authenticity. But if this is a scam, he is going to be in on it and just provide more false information.


Other than calling that long distance number and getting a huge bill over something that might be a hoax, how can I figure out if this is real?
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Post by TwistedLefty » September 7th, 2006, 6:08 pm

:roll: BS :roll:
i would think that they would have an english portal if it were legit
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Post by NoteBoat » September 7th, 2006, 8:05 pm

Not legit. If you reply, they'll want you to send money for 'taxes'.
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Post by chuckster » September 7th, 2006, 9:59 pm

Steer well clear of this one.

This stinks and seems to me to be a clear cut scam. Legitimate companies will not normally use email for notifications of this nature. Particularly a badly spelt (sp?) email with poor English. Why if it is an international lottery is the web site only in Dutch (?)? (EDIT: Oooppss! German. Sorry. :oops: )

I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole.

Just my opinion of course.


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EDIT: I've just had another thought. By replying to the email you are providing the scammers/spammers with confirmation of an active email account. You may well be opening yourself up for a barrage of spam/scams. It is usually best just to delete emails of this nature unanswered.
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Post by greybeard » September 8th, 2006, 6:40 am

You have 3 email addresses, all in different countries.
europwlotterij@netscape.net - This is a freebie email address from Netscape, not the sort of thing a lottery co-ordinator would use.
http://www.25peaces.at - this address belongs to Austria, which is separated from the Netherlands ba Germany, so it's not exactly "next door". "Peaces" is, as the name suggests, an organisation for peace, which has no mention on it's website, that it is in any way in any co-operation with a lottery. It concentrates it's efforts on Austria, in general, and Vienna, in particular. I would imagine that, if this lottery were, in any way affiliated to Peaces, it would be listed in the partners. I presume that the 't scammers assume that 99% of their victims can't read German and are impressed by the list of partners.
see.message13@virgilio.it - This is an italian email address.

Google Europw lottery and you'll find others, who have received similar mails. Here's the name/address area from one of them:
Mr. Bruijne Hubert,
Claims processing manager
EUROPW LOTTO PLUS
europwlotterij@netscape.net
Tel: +31 636 243 521
Fax:+31 847 197 528

...........Sincerely yours,
Mrs. Anna-maria Vanbel.
Lottery Coordinator
EuroPW Lottery Program

The names are different as is the telephone number.

Europw appears to be a legit company, which offers software for the (genuine) Euromillions lottery - but no ticket, no payday. The scammers hae apparently hijacked several legit organisations for the phishing scam.
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Post by Misanthrope » September 8th, 2006, 2:40 pm

Nexion: All you need to know to decide whether a winning notification is real or not is the fact that it came in your email. It doesn't matter how good it looks, how many addresses match things that you can look up on the net, all that tells you is how much effort the scammers have put in to it. Put it this way - if it's genuine I'll match it myself and double your winnings :wink:

PS: The nigerian bloke about to offer you a share of 25 million dollars in return for your help in smuggling the money out of a secret bank account - he's a tad shifty too! :mrgreen:

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Post by smcclure » September 8th, 2006, 3:15 pm

Why in the world would anyone have a lottery where they pick the entries from random email addresses acquired from various sources. What could possibly be in it for them?
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Post by greybeard » September 9th, 2006, 12:13 am

smcclure wrote:Why in the world would anyone have a lottery where they pick the entries from random email addresses acquired from various sources. What could possibly be in it for them?
"Unfortunately the win is not tax free. Please send us €xxxxx to cover the local betting tax, after which the 1.5 million will be transferred to your account" or osmething along those lines.

Asking them to simply deduct local betting tax from the winnings will not be acceptable to them - betcha.
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Post by geoo » September 9th, 2006, 5:49 am

I agree with what everyone else is saying but to check it out for yourself, you can copy and paste your email suject line into google with email scam ie "email scam <subject line" and find out for yourself. Lots of winners in there. LOL As another said, once you contact them then you will be required to pay a sum to get your money. Now, why would you ever have to pay a sum to get your money. They should be able to take it from your winnings, like they do at the casino or track.

My daddie always said, if it sounds too good to be true.. it probly is.

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Post by Nexion » September 9th, 2006, 11:29 am

Yeah, that all makes sense.

I'll use "wishful thinking" as my excuse of why I was so guilible. :wink: :lol:

I really need the money!
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Post by abcxyz » September 17th, 2006, 10:50 pm

Bill Gates gets a ton of e-mails every day advising him to how to get out of debt and be rich.

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Re: Legit or not???

Post by Mike » September 29th, 2006, 4:19 pm

Other than the obvious.........
This is from a total cash prize of 3 Million Euros,shared amongst the First Three lucky winners in this category.
.....and you get 1,500,000?

Hmmmm..... Last time I checked, 3 million split 3 ways is a million a pop, not 1.5.


If they are that poor in the math department, maybe you could scam them out of some doe. :lol:

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Post by hueseph » September 29th, 2006, 5:28 pm

This is how the scam works:
  • -They send you a seemingly legit check for x amount of money
    -You go to your bank and deposit the check less x amount of dollars for the "tax fee"
    -You then send the cash via western or whatever wiring service"
    -After five days when the check bounces, your bank calls YOU and demands the money back which you sent off to wherever.
Nice scam huh? This scam will come in several different forms. Many times it will be some lady who's rich husband passed away but does not want her family to get a hold of the money. Always be suspicious. Google is your friend.

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Post by chuckster » September 29th, 2006, 6:26 pm

Google 419 scam and you will get a lot of good information.

Some useful links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_fee_fraud

http://www.met.police.uk/fraudalert/419.htm

Stay safe.

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Post by Ignar Hillström » November 18th, 2006, 11:07 am

KROPAAR
STRAAT 34, 1032LA,
AMSTERDAM, THE NETHERLANDS
It's an invalid adress, the Kropaarstraat does indeed have that zipcode but it only has adresses between 1 and 14. So unless they managed to squeeze in another twenty houses last night I think it's fake. Purely by coincident you do have to take bus 34 to get there.

Also, it's 'our Dutch noun, not 'our Netherlands' noun'. A legit firm would know that.
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