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Postby pc0999 » April 5th, 2010, 4:39 pm

Hi,

Just looking into the A Beginner's Guide to Soloing Pt2" ( http://www.guitarnoise.com/lessons/begin ... ng-part-2/ ) but I have one question.

Shouldnt be there at least, in total, 4 more modes/shapes, Mode 2 and 5 in the Major and Shapes 3 and 4 in the Minor Pentatonic?

If so, here can I find them? (preferably in this site)

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Postby dhodge » April 5th, 2010, 5:45 pm

You already know the notes, or should be able to figure them out from the tablature, so it's not all that hard to put together your own charts. That's one of the best ways to start to understand them.

F Major Position 2:

Code: Select all
E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 - 5 -
B - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5 - 6 - - - - -
G - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 - 5 - 7 - - - - - - - - -
D - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 - 5 - 7 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
A - - - - - - - 3 - 5 - 7 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
E - 3 - 5 - 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


F Major Position 5:

Code: Select all
E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 6 - 8 -
B - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 8 - 10 - - - - --
G - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7 - 9 - 10 - - - - - - - - - --
D - - - - - - - - - - - - 7 - 8 - 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --
A - - - - - 7 - 8 - 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --
E - 8 - 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --


A Minor Pentatonic Position 3:

Code: Select all
E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10 - 12 -
B - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10 - 13 - - - - - -
G - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 9 - 12 - - - - - - - - - - --   
D - - - - - - - - - - - 10 - 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --
A - - - - - - 10 - 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
E - 10 - 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


A Minor Pentatonic Position 4:

Code: Select all
E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 12 - 15 -
B - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 13 - 15 - - - - - -
G - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 12 - 14 - - - - - - - - - - -   
D - - - - - - - - - - - 12 - 14 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
A - - - - - - 12 - 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
E - 12 - 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


Hope this helps.

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Postby pc0999 » April 5th, 2010, 6:21 pm

Thats it,

Thank you very much.
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Postby cnev » April 9th, 2010, 4:56 am

I think there is a typo in Am position #3 that 9 on the D string should be a 10.
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Postby dhodge » April 9th, 2010, 5:57 am

Thanks, Chris.

I just corrected it.

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Postby cnev » April 9th, 2010, 8:01 am

David,

I'm no really one to look for typos or even pay attention but I have been on a pentatonic kick lately really trying to work them and they have been ingrained in my brain and as soon as I saw it, it looked odd. (I still had to double check to make sure I wasn't seeing things)
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Postby pc999 » April 12th, 2010, 6:11 am

Hi again, one more question if you dont mind.

In the "F Major Position 5" one of the last notes is a B (7 fret 1º string) shouldnt be a flat B? either on the 6 fret first string or 11 fret second string?

But in that case is just a "F Major Position 4" minus 1 note, which makes some sense because it goes over 2 octaves and this (like the rest) mode is "just the same thing but starting on the second note". Like every other it just matter here you start. Did I get everything right?

In that case, would it be good in the long run if I just made a new position that goes between the 8 and the 12 fret?

Thanks in advance.
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Postby dhodge » April 12th, 2010, 4:37 pm

Yes, it should have been the sixth fret. I can't seem to write anything write some days!

And your observation is why most players don't worry about learning every position. When you have seven different positions (or even five), you get a lot of overlap in places and more often than not you find yourself making slight shifts from one position to the other.

And why would you make a new position that goes between the eighth and twelfth frets? The sixth position of F would start with D, which is at the tenth fret.

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Postby pc999 » April 16th, 2010, 3:07 am

There is days like that. :)

Take for the input.
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